Obama’s Enablers Put Forth Another Straw Man Argument: One’s Parents Do Not Have to Be Born in the U.S. to Be a “Natural Born Citizen”
By: Mario Apuzzo, Esq.
May 29, 2011
Putative President Barack Obama’s enablers are out and about making their straw man arguments in order to win the presidential eligibility issue. “A straw man is a component of an argument and is an informal fallacy based on misrepresentation of an opponent's position. To ‘attack a straw man’ is to create the illusion of having refuted a proposition by substituting it with a superficially similar yet unequivalent proposition (the ‘straw man’), and refuting it, without ever having actually refuted the original position.” http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man.
In arguing that putative President Barack Obama is an Article II “natural born Citizen, his defenders maintain that the “birthers” are wrong in believing otherwise because there is no requirement that one’s parents must be born in the U.S. to be a "natural born Citizen." This is a straw man argument given that it suggests that this is the “birthers’” argument when in fact it is not. This is not the only straw man argument that we have seen Obama’s enablers advance. We have seen their effort to win the Obama eligibility issue by misrepresenting the constitutional argument (e.g., they argue that a “natural born citizen” is the same as a “citizen” and then they set out to show what historically a “citizen” is and publicly concentrate on the place of birth issue but suppress from the same public the constitutional argument on the meaning of an Article II “natural born Citizen”); they present for public display “birthers” who may defend the constitutional position poorly as best defenders of that position; they invent a fictitious persona with actions or beliefs which are then ridiculed and criticized (they have invented the “birther” who they attack as being a racists and/or attached to nothing but conspiracy theories or in the words of Obama himself: "We're not going to solve our problems if we get distracted by carnival barkers and sideshows." [Barack Obama, April 27, 2011, in reference to Donald Trump]); and they oversimplify our constitutional position and attack that position (e.g. they mock the “birthers” for saying that a “natural born Citizen” is a child born in the country to citizen parents and add that a simple facial reading of the Constitution’s text contains no such requirement). They also use the slippery slope fallacy, saying that there is no reason for Obama to release any medical or other evidence proving his Hawaiian birth because the “birthers” will never be satisfied with no matter how much documentary evidence of his alleged Hawaiian birth Obama may present to the public. None of this is even to mention the unfounded charges of racism and other and various ad hominem attacks against anyone who would dare question Obama’s Article II constitutional eligibility to be President.
Now let us see how Obama’s enablers’ statement that the “birthers” put forth the argument that the President’s parents must be born in the United States is nothing but a straw man argument. First, we do not maintain that the parents need to be American born. Rather, we maintain that they must be "citizens of the United States," which status they can acquire by being "natural born Citizens" or naturalized at birth or after birth. The parents must be “citizens of the United States,” under any one of three scenarios: (1) “natural born Citizens” under Article II by being born in the U.S. or its jurisdictional equivalent to U.S. citizen parents; (2) naturalized at birth, under the 14th Amendment or 8 U.S.C. Sec. 1401(a) by being born in the U.S. to one or two alien parents or other Congressional Acts by being born out of the U.S. to one or two U.S. citizen parents; or (3) naturalized after birth under some Congressional Act or treaty by being born out of the U.S. to two alien parents.
Second, these same individuals also confuse an Article II “natural born Citizen” with a "born citizen" under the 14th Amendment or 8 U.S.C. Sec. 1401(a) which as currently interpreted do not require U.S. citizen parents in order to be declared a “citizen of the United States” at birth. This latter citizen, lacking the natural quality of being born to two U.S. citizen parents, is actually naturalized at birth by way of Congressional naturalization power at first questionably exercised by Congress through the Civil Rights Act of 1866 and then unquestionably exercised by it through the 14th Amendment. Today, we commonly refer to this citizen as a “native-born citizen,” not to be confused with a “native” under natural law and the law of nations which has the same meaning as a “natural born citizen.” On the contrary, to be an Article II "natural born citizen," one must be born in the U.S. (or its jurisdictional equivalent) to a U.S. citizen father and mother. Emer de Vattel, The Law of Nations, Or, Principles of the Law of Nature, Sections 212-217 (London 1797) (1st ed. Neuchatel 1758); Minor v. Happersett, 88 U.S. (21 Wall.) 162, 167 (1875); U.S. v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649 (1898). See also the many other legal and historical sources cited at this cite for support for this definition. The Founders and Framers wanted to make sure that no hereditary monarch could ever gain control of the new constitutional republic and to keep foreign influence out of the all-powerful and singular office of the Chief Executive and Commander of the military. These birth circumstances assure that the President and Commander of our military cannot be of royal parents (a U.S. citizen must renounce all titles of nobility) and has sole and undivided natural allegiance to the U.S. from the moment of birth by the child not inheriting any other foreign allegiance by jus soli (citizenship by right of the soil) or jus sanguinis (citizenship inherited by one’s parents). Only the President and Vice-President have to be an Article II "natural born Citizen." The great majority of Americans are “natural born Citizens.” For every other citizen in the U.S. who is not a “natural born Citizen,” the clause has no constitutional or other legal effect, for “citizens of the United States” all enjoy equality in rights, privileges, and immunities. Hence, the clause is in place only to protect the United States and its people by assuring that our representative constitutional republic will be lead by a President and Commander in Chief who from birth is attached to the best interests and only that of the United States.
Obama is not and cannot be an Article II “natural born Citizen.” He maintains that he was born in Kapi’olani Hospital in Hawaii in 1961. But he has yet to conclusively establish that fact with a valid long-form Certificate of Live Birth or with any medical evidence. Rather, on April 27, 2011, after refusing to do so for over 2 ½ years and spending or causing to be spent countless millions of dollars of public and private funds and resources and even the 6-month imprisonment of a decorated military officer, LTC Terry Lakin, he released on the internet a forged internet image of his alleged long-form Certificate of Live Birth. This computer image is a forgery, as it contains evidence of electronic manipulation. Even if the internet image is a true representation of the alleged underlying Certificate of Live Birth, that underlying paper birth certificate, which is supposed to be a document filled in with a typewriter in 1961, is a forgery, for it contains evidence of kerning (a technique of spacing letters next to each other for aesthetic purposes) which cannot possibly be done on a typewriter in 1961. Also, there exist significant questions regarding whether Obama is using a valid social security number and whether his selective service military registration was also forged.
In any event, assuming the released birth certificate image to be valid, it conclusively establishes that Obama’s legitimate father was Barack Obama Sr. So, even assuming that Obama was born in Hawaii, he can be a “born” “citizen of the United States” under the 14th Amendment or 8 U.S.C. Sec. 1401(a), but he cannot be a “natural born” “citizen of the United States” under Article II. Under the British Nationality Act of 1948, Obama was born in 1961 to Barack Obama Sr., a British citizen father who was born in 1934 or 1936 in the then-British colony of Kenya and by descent from his father he himself was born a British citizen. He was therefore born with conflicting and divided loyalties to the U.S. and Great Britain, which under the Kenya Independence Act of 1963, converted to citizenship and allegiance to Kenya at age 2 which lasted until at least age 23. Consequently, Obama, was naturalized at birth and, like a person who is naturalized after birth is not eligible to be President, was not born with sole and undivided allegiance to the U.S. Obama is thus not and cannot be an Article II “natural born Citizen.” Obama is therefore not eligible to be President and Commander in Chief of the Military.
Mario Apuzzo, Esq.
May 29, 2011
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Expanded Analysis: Forged Birth Certificate; Not Necessary to Prove Birthplace; Facing Forgery Charges & Conspiracy to Commit Forgery. -Evidence here.
Confirmed: Democratic Party of Hawaii would not certify in 2008 that Obama was constitutionally and legally eligible for the Office of President -Details here.
Notre Dame Professor Charles Rice: Obama's eligibility could be biggest political fraud in the history of the world; time for a new approach -Details here.
Attorney Mario Apuzzo: All presidents born after 1787, except for Chester Arthur and Barack Obama, met the “natural born Citizen” criteria. -Details here.
Commander Charles Kerchner: List of U.S. Presidents - Eligibility under Article II Grandfather Clause (GFC) or Natural Born Citizen (NBC) Clause or Seated due to Election Fraud -Details here.
Jack Cashill Discusses Obama's Fraudulent Social Security Number Reserved for Connecticut Applicants -Video here.
Detailed reports on Obama's SS# can be found here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here and here. Visit the Birther Vault for the long list of evidence against Hawaii officials and all of the people questioning Obama's eligibility; [http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2010/08/video-ltc-terry-lakins-attorney-on-cnn.html].
Yes Virginia-There is a Usurper in the White House-Obama Long Form BC Forged! Wash Times NW 20110516 pg 5
38 comments:
Obama is nothing more than a very horrible experiment gone wrong in affirmative action.
William Richardson
Progressives refuse to believe they have been so easily duped, especially by a modern-day Flim Flam Man. Therefore, they are desperately trying to convince themselves that they made the right decision because they consider themselves so advanced and enlightened. Except what they refuse to take to heart is that those who think they know it all never really learn anything new.
When detractors (graphic designers and document experts of both political parties) of the fraudulent longform BC proved it was a forgery and folks started shouting that Obama was not a Natural Born Citizen, someone scrubbed the definition of NBC from Wikipedia. What a coincidence, except NOT. Whether it was one of Obama's handlers or a devout kool-aid drinker, this would not have happened if they weren't so worried that too many people would realize the truth: that Obama was never and will never be a Natural Born Citizen (by the intended definition) because of the non-citizen status of his father. Those who are born in the US of foreign parents are NATIVE BORN, not NATURAL BORN. That's in addition to the fact that the BC is a forgery and that a copy of that forgery now sits in the HDOH records, having been placed there by someone with Hawaiian connections who is complicit in the coverup.
Is there any new update on the filing of the FBI forgery complaint?
@Anonymous
Not that I know of...
@Anonymous
Maybe some Progressives have problems admitting they were duped. Others, however, don't care where Barky was born. They have no pride in the US. They are, in fact, ashamed to be Americans. In their view, all other countries in the world, except those in western Europe and Israel, are superior to the US, or, at least, the citizens of those countries are superior to Americans, western Europeans and Israelis.
If a good number of Progressives had their way, an amendment would be made to the Constitution that would make even naturalized citizens eligible to serve as POTUS. The naturalized citizen would be preferable to the natural born citizen and the born citizen because, having been a citizen of another country(s) first makes that citizen and would-be candidate automatically superior to the natural born citizen-turned-candidate.
I'm not just blowing smoke here. Go to some of the more liberal or the openly Progressive/socialist blog sites and read the posts, articles and commentary/discussions. Their hatred of America and all of the western world is apparent, as is their idolization of every non-western country of the world and the citizens of those countries. (Most idolized are the citizens of third world country. Libtardian logic dictates that being the most oppressed automatically makes one the best, brightest and most honorable, too.)
Just so you know the vile obot that was posting death threats here stated in other comments that he knows and doesn't care that Obama is ineligible. He said the goal was to destroy America and kill off all Conservatives.
Corsi in a late Saturday afternoon or early evening interview (1 hr) on the Urban Infidel Show for download here.
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/urbaninfidel/2011/05/29/dr-jerome-corsi-on-the-urban-infidel-show
RS
@ObamaRelease YourRecords
I didn't know you were going to use the 'Obama Deception' graphic on a shirt. It competes with mine.
http://www.cafepress.com/weebles
@weebles
From what I understood during our comment exchange you said I could...
I'll pull it...
@ObamaRelease YourRecords
I apologize for the confusion. When you said 'upload it', I thought you meant this site or your facebook pics. My fault. Thanks for your understanding.
@weebles
weebles said...[Reply]
Here's a graphic that would look good on a black T.
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May 22, 2011 8:28 PM
ObamaRelease YourRecords said...[Reply]
@weebles
Nice.
You mind if I upload it?
May 22, 2011 8:31 PM
weebles said...[Reply]
@ObamaRelease YourRecords
Thanks.
Be my guest, happy to donate.
May 22, 2011 8:35 PM
http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2011/05/obama-birth-certificate-made-in-media.html?showComment=1306121328405#c7881771094729534137
@weebles
No problem...
This is another excellent article ORYR, but reading articles like this just make me mad now since the senate, congress, and the courts don't seem to care, and i correspond to my reps. regularly.
I hope you reported that death threat idiot to police, FBI or whoever, assholes like that need to learn that that is a serious thing.
I have a theory that the people in Washington have to know the truth, they can't be that blind. i believe they know they fouled up big time and refuse to step up out of fear for their own collective asses; but i think that they didn't think he'd be arrogant enough to try for re-election. He hasn't officially announced it yet so he may not, and something may happen if he does. I really don't know, just thinking out loud, either way before this decade is out i hope everyone becomes well aware of the true definition of "Natural born Citizen" and that it, and the Obama thing will never be forgotten, that's what matters most, to have learned a valuable lesson from this tragic act of treason. If nothing is learned from this we are truly doomed.
He will run for re-election. He is too arrogant not to...
whether Obama runs or not he must not be allowed to get away with this crime. this man needs to be jailed and all who helped to cover for him needs to go down too. we must make that clear this must not stand. the inaction's of this congress and senate must not go unpunished. we the people must demand that they all be held accountable. if we let them get away with this they will continue to screw us when ever they see fit. this must not be swept under the rug. we must let them all know we do not intend to let this rest. Obama Pelosi Reid Schumer, Durbin and anyone who refuses to do the job they were intrusted to do must be held accountable for this fraud and criminal act against Americans. this will only be done again if we let this go. We are Americans we do not rest until we deliver the criminals to jail. I swore an oath to this nation when i served in 1974-77. we do not quit we do not rest till we get the job done. we don't half step we walk tall and follow through. this must end with these criminals in jail and our nation put back the way it was given to us. to do anything less is to fail in our mission. Americans don't fail we strive to be better for the good of all men. with God and our trust in him we fight till the end. never wavering from our duty to our country and fellow citizens.
veteran soldier and patriot.
@Anonymous
When one has been shown to be wrong they either man up and say so or they refuse to fess up out of embarassment or childish behavior.
Mario Apuzo needs to get over the the usconstitution.net website and set those people straight. They're teaching kids over there that NBC means being born in this country.
http://www.usconstitution.net/yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=debarch2010;action=display;num=1273091398
@ Anonymous: I agree, and BTW Thank you for your service sir, it's because of men like you that we live free.
@H. Jones
Lets face it all liars have no interest in the truth.
The kingdoms of this world are only going to be crushed under foot by Jesus returning.
UNTIL THEN TRUTH IS THROWN TO THE GROUND.
Thats the reality of the situation.
@H. Jones
Ofcourse that doesnt mean those on the side of Truth should just shut up
@Anonymous
i got bad news
Mr corsi is a member of a secret society linked to the same ones as Mike Blake
He graduated from St. Ignatius High School in 1964. He earned a B.A. from Case Western Reserve University in 1968, and was elected to the Phi Beta Kappa Society.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerome_Corsi
The question has to be asked is this all managed?
i report you decide.
lol
@Anonymous
high court judge clarence thomas
is in a secret society also\
wasnt he key in a orly case?
Education:
St. John Vianney Minor Conception Seminary, 1967-1968: At Holy Cross College, he graduated ninth in his class with an A.B. in English, cum laude in 1971. He was a member of Alpha Sigma Nu and the Purple Key Society. At Yale Law School, he received his J.D. in 1974.
http://supreme.lp.findlaw.com/supreme_court/justices/thomas.html
@Anonymous
clarence thomas went to bohemain grove also
where they sacrifice an human effigy to an owl and most importantly!!
lament the fall of babylon and trye
What is a "secret society?" I mean, if learning of the societies and their members is so easy that even Wikipedia contributors can do it, are they secrets?
@AuntieMadder
In answer to the question
what is a secret society?
And why is it secret if a meber is disclosed etc.
The point is a secret society is a aoth taking brotherhood that practices an code of who knows what, and its mebers swear oaths of lifetime allegience to eachother, which can lead to towing a line on an issue in solidaritiy to eachother in public life.
Remember both bush and kerry were members of skull and bones, they had swore an oath to defend something which is secret, above the us constitution.
That is the outrageous danger of secret societies.
If you believe everything you find on Wikipedia then you're a lost cause...
@ObamaRelease YourRecords
To be clear, Wikipedia is worthless to me. I don't use it as a resource - I take that back. Rarely do I use it as a resource and only then because what I'm looking up is of little importance, such as identifying the names of albums for my music files, for example. For just about anything else, Wikipedia's Libtardian bias render's the site worthless to me and dangerous to those who don't know better.
Incidentally, I recently discovered Conservapedia. I like it.
"Conservapedia is a clean and concise resource for those seeking the truth. We do not allow liberal bias to deceive and distort here. Founded initially in November 2006 as a way to educate advanced, college-bound homeschoolers, this resource has grown into a marvelous source of information for students, adults and teachers alike. Our courses are ongoing and open to all here: Conservapedia:Index. We have received over 200 million page views!"
http://conservapedia.com/Conservapedia:About
The problem with Wikipedia is anyone can add and edit content without any oversight.
@Anonymous
Bah! If two people are told a secret and at least one of them isn't dead before the day is over, the secret will be common knowledge in no time. It's human nature to blab, probably more so in this day and age, with everyone seeking their 15 minutes of fame and celebrities being idolized for doing and being nothing more than celebrities.
Incidentally, it's "toeing the line," as in standing with one's toes right up to, but not over, a line. The expression has nothing to do with dragging or pulling a line.
@ObamaRelease YourRecords
That's part of the problem. The site's admins are another part of the problem because, should a right-leaning definition or description be submitted, Wikipedia admins delete it as soon as they discover it. They also scrub information from the site when doing so benefits the left. Here are a couple of examples of their bias.
'Natural-born citizen' info vanishes off Wikipedia
In wake of Obama's release of his long-form birth certificate
Read more: 'Natural-born citizen' info vanishes off Wikipedia http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=293069#ixzz1NsEvumLb
Top Five Wikipedia Smears of Anti-Jihad Activists
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/10/the-top-five-wikipedia-smears-of-anti-jihad-activists.html
@Anonymous
That site's definition of NBC was the topic of an article at P&E News. I spent a little time checking out the usconstitution.com site. You can read the article and my comments in their entirety at the link below. In short, the site's webmaster fancies himself to be a Constitutional scholar (he's not) and posts his opinions and non-scholarly beliefs as if they are fact. For example, here's his answer to someone who asked what his source was for the definition of nbc as per Article II.
"The source of the quoted material is my own text. It doesn’t come from the State Department or anywhere else. It is, however, just a matter of common sense. The law, as linked to, defined all persons as citizens at birth. “Citizen at birth” is a synonym for “natural born.” Ergo, if you’re a citizen at birth, you are eligible to be President or Vice President. Anyone who is a citizen, but not a citizen at birth, is not eligible to be President nor Vice President."
http://www.thepostemail.com/2011/04/28/when-did-the-definition-of-natural-born-citizen-change-part-ii/comment-page-1/#comment-54127
All you have to do is read the conservapedia definition of "liberal" and the wikipedia definition of "conservative" to see which one has a dishonest political bias.
@AuntieMadder
The whole point of secre societies is not secrets It is FRATERNITY AND SWORN ALLEGIENCE TO EACHOTHER
That is the problem with secret societies.
@ObamaRelease YourRecords
True you have to check wiki pedi and make sure its sourced
In respect to judge clarence and his memebership of a secret society that info was not from wiki pedia
true mr corsis was, but here again its said and this is his author page on shelfari .
Jerome Corsi was born in East Cleveland, Ohio, to Louis E. Corsi, a union public ... Case Western Reserve University in 1968, and was elected to the Phi Beta Kappa Society.
http://www.shelfari.com/authors/a412681/Jerome-R-Corsi/
By the way i am the one who posted in Mike blakes alpha phi alpha membership.
I have no bones posting on Mr Corsi also.
Because i am interested in truth all the way.
I post on Mr Corsis and his membership just for the record.
So if anything happens that seems strange, such as did with Trump, we have a possible reason.
Anyone who thinks such things as memberships of secret fraternities is not relevent to this matter of allegience to constitutional law , is a foolish person indeed.
@Anonymous
I know that judge clarence went to bohemian grove where they sacrfice to a owl idol
and most importantly lament the fall of babylon and trye - two things symbolic with satans kingdom on earth in the scriptures
i know because i have seen the evidence of his name on a invitation back in 2005? i think
and i know the ritual text that it said there at obhemian grove bvecause i saw the alex jones movie and saw them do the ritual and speak it.
And i know the significance of the defience of God in lamenting tyre and babylon because i know Jesus christ come in the flesh The Son Of God and His Word.
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