Presidential Candidate To File Multi-State Constitutional Eligibility Lawsuit Against Barack Hussein Obama
Just received this via email:
BREAKING NEWS
As campaign manager for 2012 Presidential candidate John Dummett, we have just aligned ourselves with a prominent Constitutional Eligibility attorney by the name of Van Irion of the Liberty Legal Foundation from Tennessee...He has agreed to file a constitutional eligibility lawsuit on behalf of John Dummett as lead FEC presidential candidate..This lawsuit will be filed within the next 3 days, if not earlier...It will be filed in 3 states, local and federal of this great country in a massive concerted effort to bring honor and integrity to our ballot box and to prevent ineligible un-constitutional candidates such as barack hussein obama from ever appearing on the state ballot in any US state...It is our fervent hope and prayer that we will spread this lawsuit to all 50 states...There will be an upcoming press release within the next few days that will set out a little more in detail as to our approach on this novel matter that we believe will be embraced by the courts..John does have standing as per dicta from the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals to bring this lawsuit to a final conclusion on the merits...Please send this notice out viral to all your contacts...On a side note and in behalf of John, I want to personally thank all of our hard core supporters and foot soldiers who many of you have been with us from the beginning...You all know who you are...It is because of your love for this country and your desire to restore our Republic that you have committed yourselves to support John, his ideals, platform and agenda for America..On Johns' behalf, we thank all you guys from the bottom of our heart..Now the real work will begin in various courts around the country to get our nation back on the right track..We can no longer tolerate the grave injustice done to the American people during the fraudulent 2008 election of an un-constitutional candidate.. More to follow!!!........sincerely, campaign manager william odom
John Dummett's web address is:
www.johndummett.us
The fund raising effort is at
www.recruityou.info
UPDATE: On 10/25/11 Liberty Legal Foundation filed two simultaneous lawsuits against the Democratic Party. Both lawsuits request injunctions prohibiting the Party from certifying that Obama is Constitutionally qualified to run for the office of President in the 2012 election. Without such a certification from the Party, Obama will not appear on any ballot in the 2012 general election.
Neither lawsuit discuss Obama’s place of birth or his birth certificate. These issues are completely irrelevant to our argument. LLF’s lawsuit simply points out that the Supreme Court has defined “natural-born citizen” as a person born to two parents who were both U.S. citizens at the time of the natural-born citizen’s birth. Obama’s father was never a U.S. citizen. Therefore, Obama can never be a natural-born citizen. His place of birth is irrelevant.
MORE HERE: http://www.libertylegalfoundation.com/1381/no-certification-without-verification
Liberty Legal Foundation, et al. v Democratic National Committee - Obama Eligibility Complaint - Federal
Liberty Legal Foundation, et al. v Democratic National Committee - Obama Eligibility Complaint - TN
Attorney Dr. Herb Titus: Born In Hawaii Does Not Make Obama A Natural Born Citizen - DETAILS HERE
Obama's SSN Fails E-Verify System - 17 Oct 2011 Wash Times National Wkly edition - pg 5
33 comments:
Will this be the straw ?
RM
I hope they include the fraudulent SSN he's been using.
If he decides to do that in Texas he needs to file his dissertation with the SOS (Secretary of State) and the Texas Attorney general at the same time. He needs to do this so that the SOS can't say this should go to the attorney general and stops the attorney general from saying "this needs to go to the SOS. Been there, done that.
I hope John can get this on the National stage but if it weren't for this website I would not know about this guy.
Trump on Greta tonight. And yes, according to her post on GretaWire, she will ask him about the B.C.
@Anonymous
He's running as a Republican. So all he has to do is win the GOP nomination and then he will have standing.
Which party has selected John to be their presidential candidate?
www.FOGBLOW.com
How can there be "dicta" from the Ninth Circuit when the Ninth Circuit has not yet ruled?
Dummett does not understand what "obiter dictum" (plural: dicta) is. Dictum is an expression of opinion by a judge that is not part of resolution or determination of the specific case before the court and is not binding in subsequent cases as legal precedent.
No decision by the Ninth Circuit means that the court has not even yet expressed dicta.
Jeb Bush:
“Republican candidates should categorically reject the notion that President Obama was not born in the United States."
He is not a presidential candidate. Nobody has ever heard of him before. Stop mixing lies with truth. It is too late for anybody else to run. The deadline was weeks ago. I hope he is somebody who can bring this to the mainstream AND KEEP IT THERE. He is a person who filled out the paperwork to run for president but never took the steps to be in a presidential debate. I hope that is good enough for the courts to listen and take him serious.
'It is too late for anybody else to run.'
No it isn't idiot!
ballot deadlines for appearing as a candidate in the 2012 Republican primaries and caucuses
http://hillbuzz.org/2011/08/25/action-item-compile-all-the-ballot-deadlines-for-appearing-as-a-candidate-in-the-2012-republican-primaries-and-caucuses/
Confusion reigns over eligibility issue
There's a brand-new "birther" in town, the media would like you to know.
It's Texas Gov. Rick Perry, who suggested in an interview he's not sure if he has seen Barack Obama's real birth certificate – yet, he adds, has no reason to doubt his birth story.
Why are the media so determined to smoke out high-profile skeptics on the issue of Obama's truthfulness about his birth narrative?
Very simple.
Because the Big Media are engaged in a classic disinformation campaign to intimidate anyone who is serious about the Constitution and its requirements for the office of the presidency – or, for that matter, what the Constitution says about anything.
Any serious debate about Obama's eligibility should have ended a long time ago. He's not eligible. It matters not where he was born – which, ironically, is still very much in doubt. What matters is that he was not born of parents who were American citizens at the time. That's what "natural born citizen" means. It does not mean "born in the USA," much as Obama and his protectors in the media would like you to think.
Not only do the media activists attempt to obscure the clear meaning of the Constitution in their breathless assertion that anyone born in the USA is "natural born," they also, I believe, seek to attack at its root the reliance on "original intent," which couldn't be clearer.
Keep in mind, the American colonies were just that – colonies of the British crown. Prior to the Magna Carta, natural born subjects were those born under the jurisdiction of the king. But that definition changed with the Magna Carta and the British Nationality Act of 1772, which declared that children born of British subjects outside the jurisdiction of the crown be natural born subjects. That would thus be the undeniable interpretation of the framers of the Constitution – substituting only the word "citizen" for "subject."
To underscore this point, the 1790 Uniform Naturalization Act, passed just one year after the Constitution was ratified, defined minor children of aliens as U.S. citizens only upon naturalization of the father.
"Natural Born Citizen" was defined by an 1875 Supreme Court ruling (Minor v. Happersett) as children born of two U.S. citizens – regardless of the location of the birth. It found: "The Constitution does not, in words, say who shall be natural-born citizens. Resort must be had elsewhere to ascertain that. At common-law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives, or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners."
This legal principle was restated, ironically, in 2008 by the U.S. Senate in confronting concerns over the eligibility of presidential candidate John McCain. The U.S. Senate resolved by a 99-0 vote, which included one cast by Obama himself, that McCain was indeed eligible because both his parents were U.S. citizens. It mattered not that he was born in Panama. It wasn't even an issue.
Neither does it need to be an issue of where Obama was born.
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=360085
Just saw Bill O'Reilly answer a question in the mailbag segment regarding Sen. Marco Rubio. I missed the question but I saw the answer, which prompted me to send the following message to Bill at oreilly@foxnews.com:
There is a word to describe those who, like you, say that Sen. Marco Rubio was born in Miami and thus could run for any office. That is "heretic." His parents were not yet U.S. citizens when he was born, so he cannot be a natural born citizen just as an "anchor baby," which is only a naturalized citizen, cannot.
@Anonymous Yep I'm thinking it WILL be the straw. This attorney has been studying all past cases so he knows what went wrong and how to fix it. Can't happen soon enough for me!
@ Anon at 4:14 p.m.: Just saw Greta start off her interview of the Donald with a discussion of our undocumented leader's BC. He gave a contradictory answer, saying that he was never convinced that it was the real thing when it was released, only to say later under pressure from Greta that he now believes it is the real deal and that he just isn't one to be easily convinced. I suspect he still has his doubts about it.
I just saw it live and he didn't say it was the real deal.
@Anonymous @ 6:32
"This attorney has been studying all past cases so he knows what went wrong and how to fix it."
Apparently not. I took a look at the Liberty Legal Foundation's website, and based on the two cases for which they are soliciting people to "join" (for a donation, of course) it is clear the this attorney is clueless about Article III standing.
Y'all are in for a heap of disappointment. Again.
@Anon 6:03pm
It is incorrect to say that a natural born citizen is a person born of two citizen parents regardless of the location of the birth. The Minor court clearly stated that a natural born citizen was a person born in the country to citizen parents.
The location of birth does matter, and here is why: A natural born citizen is born with exclusive allegiance to the US, and that condition can only be guaranteed by being born to US citizen parents (jus sanguinis) within the sovereign territory of the US (jus soli).
The persons that need to answer the eligibility questions are Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid and others in the Democratic Party hierarchy that gave us BHO in the first place. And I'd like to hear a direct answer from the Usurper himself. Do you realize the DNC is a PRIVATE organization? They are not above the law. They can't change or ignore the Constitution. Why do we continue to treat them like they are above the law and our supreme rulers?
This really is ridiculous and outrageous if you step back and really consider what they have done to our nation. And the absolute arrogance is soooo disgusting. These people need to be tried for treason if you ask me.
And I don't know about any body else but I'm glad he found a different lawyer than Orly Taitz and the others. We need some new blood handling these cases.
@ Cal Birther 7:06pm
20+ Computer/Document Experts say it's FORGED = No Reporting.
Greta says it's REAL = Reported tonight.
"WE REPORT. YOU DECIDE."
For real attorney, ur an idiot,,,Plain and simple and most likely an obot who has no business posting anything on the blog..If you truly looked st liberty legasl foundation, you would have found they have major lawsuits pending all around the country and are well aware of any Article3 issues...Just go back into a coma and leave thhe driving to common sense people who see the real issue facing this country..
Dummett's attorney says they're going to file suit against the DNC.
It is the same old song: Expect a quick dismissal due to lack of standing.
@ Anon at 7:14 p.m.: That's good to know. Then I must have misread the Donald saying he now thinks it is the real deal. I say misread because I rely heavily on captioning, so the captioner must have messed up on that.
@Anonymous @4:14 & 7:14
I also saw it live and Trump indeed did not say Obummer's LFBC was the real deal.
Additionally, Greta said it's the real deal and Brit Hume said it's a distraction.
FOX ALERT!
Greta, Brit et al believers are a distraction.
HOPE SO....
Video: Sheriff Joe Arpaio's Cold Case Posse Discovered Shocking New Evidence About Obama
http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2011/10/sheriff-joe-arpaios-cold-case-posse-has.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtSug9McorU
@Anonymous @ 8:43
Blah blah blah. You don:t know s**t about law. Clearly, you are clueless about standing and ripeness.
Don't hold your breath on Dummett.
Is there any proof that John Dummett was born in the United States, and that his parents were U.S. citizens at the time of his birth?
@Anonymous @ 8:43
Hahahaha! I DID look at LLF's website. What is more, I checked the status of its cases "all over the country." All two of them. The first, the "Immigration Case," was filed more than a year ago and never served. The summonses expired monrhs ago. Then LLF tried to intervene in U.S. v. Arizona -- you know, the one where the district court struck down the Arizona law and the Ninth Circuit affirmed. Then there is LLF's "Obamacare Suit" which is facing dismissal on grounds of -- wait, here comes the drum roll -- lack of standing, barred by Presidential Immunity and violative of the Anti-Injunction Act.
Now that's a track record ...
By an idiot who truly does not understand law. Dummett's got himself one helluva stupid lawyer.
@Anonymous
Orly Taitz said on her site that Dummett doesn't have a case. She says she turned him down acouple of months ago.
Not much hope here if even Orly says it is meaningless.
Dear Birther Report, you make the following statement: "John does have standing as per dicta from the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals to bring this lawsuit to a final conclusion on the merits." You then provide a link in support of that to the 9th Circuit's oral arguments.
Sigh. Nothing in oral arguments is "dicta." Period. Dicta is in the decision of the judge or court, and expresses an opinion beyond the facts before the court. Since the 9th Circuit has not yet issued a decision there is no dicta at all from the 9th Circuit on this matter.
In terms of its relevance to assisting Dummett perhaps a quote from Black's Law Dictionary of the definition of dicta will be helpful to you:
Quote: "Expressions in court's opinion which go beyond the facts before the court and therefore are individual views of the author of opinion AND NOT BINDING IN SUBSEQUENT CASES AS LEGAL PRECEDENT."
Now that ought to be clear enough. Even if statements and questions in oral arguments were dicta (which it is not) it wouldn't be precedent.
As a legal matter, even presuming standing, this case suffers a different fatal jurisdictional flaw. Because Obama is not yet a candidate (the Democrats have yet to select their candidate) the case is not ripe. Yet another case of premature litigation.
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