The Current INS Officially Recognizes A Delineation
Between Natural-Born and Native-Born
Attorney Leo Donofrio
I was just made privy to a very important piece of research I had not previously been aware of. It comes by way of a comment forwarded to me by the author of the h2ooflife blog:
“I had presumed that the idiom “natural born citizen” appeared nowhere in U.S. Law other than A2S1C5, but I found it in administrative law and it is contrasted with native and naturalized citizenship. I’ve never seen any mention of this fact before and wonder how many are aware of it in the ineligibility camp. Here’s the quotes:
http://www.uscis.gov/ilink/docView/SLB/HTML/SLB/0-0-0-1/0-0-0-45104/0-0-0-48602.html
He then quoted two provisions from the link provided, but there’s actually three at the official INS “.gov” site which establish official recognition by the federal government that native-born and natural-born should be separately delineated. When you visit the suggested link to the Immigration and Naturalization service, it brings you to “Interpretation 324.2 Reacquisition of citizenship lost by marriage.”
Interpretation 324.2 (a)(3) provides:
“The repatriation provisions of these two most recent enactments also apply to a native- and natural-born citizen woman who expatriated herself by marriage to an alien…” (Emphasis added.)
Then, Interpretation 324.2(a)(7) provides:
“(7) Restoration of citizenship is prospective . Restoration to citizenship under any one of the three statutes is not regarded as having erased the period of alienage that immediately preceded it.
The words “shall be deemed to be a citizen of the United States to the same extent as though her marriage to said alien had taken place on or after September 22, 1922″, as they appeared in the 1936 and 1940 statutes, are prospective and restore the status of native-born or natural-born citizen (whichever existed prior to the loss) as of the date citizenship was reacquired.” (Emphasis added.)
And again, Interpretation 324.2(b) provides:
“The effect of naturalization under the above statutes was not to erase the previous period of alienage, but to restore the person to the status if naturalized, native, or natural-born citizen, as determined by her status prior to loss.” (Emphasis added.)
http://www.uscis.gov/ilink/docView/SLB/HTML/SLB/0-0-0-1/0-0-0-45077/0-0-0-48438.html
Three times in this official INS Interpretation – currently published by the Obama Administration – native-born and natural-born are given separate consideration. And in the third example – from Interpretation 324.2(b) – the INS clearly states that each delineation, “naturalized, native, or natural-born citizen“, is a separate status.
The INS includes the following explanation of Interpretations:
CONTINUED HERE: http://naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com/2012/01/25/the-current-ins-officially-recognizes-a-delineation-between-natural-born-and-native-born
ARTICLE II ELIGIBILITY FACTS HERE: http://www.art2superpac.com/issues.html
25 comments:
---native-born means born in-country only
---there is dispute over whether this is a citizen at all because the Civil Rights Act of 1866 says it's not
---naturalized means citizenship by statute which can come from taking the oath or by having met US Code 1401
---natural born citizen means 2 US Citizen parents born on US soil
---"native" means natural born citizen, "native-born" just means born in-country alone
Oh Foggy OBots read it and weep. What's it like that the US government say you guys are wrong on native v. natural born citizens? Rhetorical. I guess there is no popping that la la land delusional, OBot bubble where you clowns live. LoL.
Hate to pee on anyones parade but, so what...?
This is an excerpt of OLD laws using the old laws terminology and as has been seen going back to the 1790's, "natural" and "native" were used interchangeably by judges, lawyers and legislators.
All this shows is that it was written so no one would think "AH HA...one but not the other"
Unless of course you're Leo.....
So, no "Ah Ha" moment, lets see what tomorrow brings in Georgia.
All know what NBC means...
why else would congress try to change it from 2002-03 to 2008.
Guess when they were out and about scrubbing they forgot a dirty corner.
At the right time the truth always comes out and wins.
@Anonymous
This is an excerpt of OLD laws using the old laws terminology and as has been seen going back to the 1790's, "natural" and "native" were used interchangeably by judges, lawyers and legislators.
Wrong OBot. You're showing your ignorance.
After the 14th Amendment became law, and especially after the 1898 SCOTUS Wong Kim Ark case, there was a divergence, a delineation of the two terms between native v. natural born. Duel citizenship is a modern day creation, and the 14th Amendment that was created by man (not natural), made it necessary for judiciary and government to delineate the two terms. It's that simple OBot.
If Hitler and Eva Braun had a baby in Tuskegee, the obots say this is a natural born citizen. No, this is a German. Only. Because the baby was not born "subject to the jurisdiction of the United States"; it was born German. Only.
If Mr. and Mrs. US Citizen have a baby born in London, that is just a statutory naturalized at birth US citizen.
If Hitler and Jane Fonda had a baby in Key West, that baby is a statutory naturalized at birth US Citizen. Like Obama.
If Mr. and Mrs. United States Citizens have a baby in Eugene Oregon, that is a natural born citizen baby.
Still we don't have a president... there is noone is office legally named barrack obama, now there is someone in office under the alias barrack obama, who's real name is barry soetero.
MUST SEE OUTSTANDING VIDEOS!!
THE KENYAN PARLIAMENT ADMITS OBAMA IS NOT A NATIVE-BORN IN THE USA AMERICAN CITIZEN.
THE KENYAN PARLIAMENT PUBLICLY ACKNOWLEDGES & RECOGNIZES DURING KENYAN PARLIAMENT LEGAL GOVERNMENT PROCEEDINGS THAT OBAMA WAS BORN IN KENYA AND IS A SON OF THE SOIL OF KENYA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_8PC3oKAvA&feature=related
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The Current INS Officially Recognizes A Delineation Between Natural-Born and Native-Born.
Excerpt:
"Adding these official Interpretations of the INS, published at the official “.gov” site, to the Supreme Court’s opinion from Minor v. Happersett, the true Constitutional definition of a natural-born citizen, as one born in the country to citizen parents, is further reinforced."
See The Entire Article Here:
http://naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com/2012/01/25/the-current-ins-officially-recognizes-a-delineation-between-natural-born-and-native-born/
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BARACK OBAMA'S CRIMINAL TIES TO KENYA?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=POLOBD5XSzk&NR=1
HAs anyone forgetten that Barack Obama, is an alias not his legal name by any means therefor any birth certificate showing barack obama not Barry Soetero is invalid, So by default we only has a Vice Prresident not a President. and no Bill(William) CLinton is a big difference and so is Dick( Richard Nixon, Now if he was called Barrack Soetero andwenbt by barry for short that would be different. However his legal name the one that he used for the Illinois State Bar Exam is Barry Soetero, Not Barrack Soetero or Barry Obama. So if thats one finally publically known truth. then what else is he hiding. Barrack Obama is also a muslim name, nothing wrong with going by said name for religious purposes however if your a Country Leading Official its generally neccessary to have a legal name change to keep going by that as the President. No documnet of said court mandated or authenticated name change has been made public.
MUST READ OUTSTANDING ARTICLES!!
"KENYAN PARLIAMENT CLAIMS OBAMA BORN IN KENYA"
"SO WHERE IS THE UNITED STATES MILITARY?"
By Sharon Rondeau
ThePostEmail.com
April 11, 2010
Excerpt:
"(Apr. 11, 2010) — A member of the Kenyan Parliament has stated in a meeting of that body on March 25, 2010 that Barack Obama was born in Kenya.
The statement, which discussed the concept of “devolution,” or ethnic inclusion, reads: “If America was living in a situation where they feared ethnicity and did not see itself as a multiparty state or nation, how could a young man born here in Kenya, who is not even a native American, become the President of America?” A screenshot of page 31 of the Minutes where the statement appears is below."
See The Entire Article & Links Here: http://www.thepostemail.com/2010/04/11/kenyan-parliament-claims-obama-born-in-kenya/
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"KENYAN PARLIAMENT PROCLAIMED OBAMA'S BIRTH THERE IN NOVEMBER 2008"
"REPEATED REFERENCES TO OBAMA'S PURPORTED ORIGINS IN "OFFICIAL" DOCUMENTS, AS WELL AS KNOWLEDGE OF "ILLEGAL" ACTIVITY"
Submitted by Terry R. Wiley
ThePostEmail.com
April 14, 2010
"Kenya gained its independence from Great Britain in 1963 but was a de facto one-party nation from 1969 to 1982"
Excerpt:
"(Apr. 14, 2010) — While the March 25, 2010 Kenyan Parliament meeting Minutes, or Hansard, stated unequivocally that Barack Hussein Obama was born in that country, the topic had also been mentioned repeatedly at the Parliament session held one day after the U.S. presidential election.
The following excerpts are from the Minutes of November 5, 2008, all containing references to Obama’s relationship to Kenya as expressed by members of the Parliament and entered into the official record. Items in bold were added by The Post & Email for emphasis."
See The Entire Article & Links Here:
http://www.thepostemail.com/2010/04/14/kenyan-parliament-proclaimed-obamas-birth-there-in-november-2008/
Yamisspade, I have never seen that he used Soretoro on Bar App. Can you direct me to where I might? I knew he lied on his app about having no alias' I know he lies about just about everything, but this one is new! Thanks in advance
The Kenya issue is
a) unprovable
b) unecessary
c) a trap because since it is unprovable, it only misdirects into the dumbot assertion that place of birth is all that matters
Obama's foreign father is
a) what obama testifies
b) the only critical matter since he therefore failes Article II
c) keeps the focus properly on the US Citizenship of parents
Bari Shabazz
aka
Barry Soetoro
aka
Barack Obama
aka
The Usurper, Usurpador, El Usurpore, L'Usurper
I have complete hard copies of the Kenyan parliament minutes (two different dates), where the members repeatedly referred to the American president, Barack Obama, as Kenyan born. I copied them directly from the Kenyan parliament website. These are knowledgeable, educated people who have spent their lives in Kenya.
The Obots just said they were wrong. Seemed a bit racist just to blow off the government of Kenya as being too dumb to really know if Obama was born there...or not.
But, Obots will do or say anything to try to save their Messiah.
Barry S (Nobama) thinks he's above the law and needn't 'prove' anything to anyone-
he's already in 'possession' of the WH,
as in possession is 9/10ths of the law?????
These "old laws" that you speak of are ACCEPTED by the INS today, as well. My daughter-in-law just received her booklets and papers for citizenship, and the INS of TODAY STILL accepts the "divisions" among native-born citizen, naturalized citizen, and natural-born citizen.
Also, the Constitution makes it VERY CLEAR that Congress---nor the President---have any legal authority to "change" the definitions of these three divisions of citizenship. Congress can ONLY make laws governing "naturalization" of those wanting to become U.S. citizens.
Better grab copies of the appropriate INS web pages -- they will be gone in a few days....
Out of curiousity, has anyone checked into the British archives in London that pertain to Kenya regarding a possible Kenyan BC?
Also, even if Barry was born in Honolulu, since Stanley Ann had his citizenship revoked in order for him to attend school in Indonesia as an Indonesian citizen, he would have had to reclaim his US citizenship by the age of 23. Is there any evidence that that was done? If not, or if he reclaimed it after age 23, he would be deemed a Naturalized Citizen (rather than Native) and still ineligible to be POTUS. Is there any evidence that he is a US citizen today?
i smell goose cooking!
@Barrybuster
Well Barrybuster ... the fact that this poe has occupied the White House for the past 3 years, proves that he is indeed above the law.
My guess is that after today in Georgia we will see further proof that he is indeed above the law.
MUST SEE OUTSTANDING VIDEO!!
NDAA IS A HOAX: YOU CAN'T LEGALIZE TYRANNY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxSVt1R4Iws&feature=g-vrec&context=G2a0d321RVAAAAAAAAAg
~ Please listen carefully to ALL of Alex Jones's outstanding words in this video!!! ~
Excerpt Under The Video:
"President Obama quietly waited weeks to sign the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) legislation on New Year's Eve after publicly threatening to veto the bill that, among other things, authorizes the indefinite detention of American citizens.
Obama's signing statement tries to reassure observers that he wouldn't use the "law" to detain citizens, but that is an illusion; his signing statement is meaningless, and the establishment occupying Washington have pulled a hoax on The People in violation of the Constitution and Bill of Rights to enslave them.
But you can't legalize tyranny. One of the nation's most well known legal precedents, Marbury vs. Madison, set in 1803, makes clear that any "law" that is "repugnant to the Constitution is null and void."
The blatant unconstitutional powers enacted in the legislature and executive branch is backfiring, however. This crowning act of tyranny is awakening people to the true intentions of Big Government in its takeover. The NDAA is so openly in violation of the American way, that Obama had to play lip-service to it in his signing statement language, even as he gave it the power of law.
Critics in the ACLU and Human Rights centers have abandoned their comfort zones and attacked the president from the left for crossing the Rubicon on rights, as they rightly should.
Now is the time for more to join that call; for Americans of all stripes to speak out against so-called "laws" that enable blatant political targeting of dissidents and declare a war against the citizens of this country. Make no mistake, if we sit idly by and let this precedent become accepted-- like the Patriot Act, with the appearance of law-- more and more unconstitutional legislation will obviously take hold."
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ALL AMERICAN CITIZEN'S,
PLEASE WATCH THESE MUST SEE VIDEOS!!!
Obama May Cancel 2012 Elections! (1 of 2)
Dr. Jerome Corsi
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLHbjb_h6yM&feature=player_embedded
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Obama May Cancel 2012 Elections! (2 of 2)
Dr. Jerome Corsi
http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=nRi6JCeOp9Y&feature=endscreen
Excerpt:
"Dr. Jerome Corsi discusses who Barack H Obama II is and whether he will cancel the 2012 elections under the cover of economic collapse!
A private investigation reveals that the Social Security Number being used by Barack Obama does not pass a check with E-Verify, the electronic system the U.S. Citizenship and Immigrations Services of the U.S. Department of Homeland Security has created to verify whether or not prospective employees have the required authorization to work legally in the United States.
Dr. Jerome Corsi's Outstanding Article At This Link: www.wnd.com/?pageId=344461#ixzz1XsL18aBY
Over the past few years, the E-Verify system has received national attention because of its ability to determine if prospective employees are illegal immigrants who have entered the United States without the legal authority to work."
http://www.infowars.com
http://www.prisonplanet.tv
http://www.infowars.net
http://www.prisonplanet.com
http://twitter.com/#!/realalexjones
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~ BETWEEN THE LINES ~
"CHRISTIANS: BE PREPARED FOR BAD TIMES AHEAD"
"EXCLUSIVE: JOSEPH FARAH EXHORTS BELIEVERS TO TAKE JESUS' WARNINGS SERIOUSLY"
Joseph Farah
Between The Lines
WND.com
January 23, 2012
http://www.wnd.com/2012/01/christians-be-prepared-for-bad-times-ahead/
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I, being the person who uncovered the INS sections that Leo Donofrio referenced, would like to inform all that I've found something potentially even more explosive regarding Obama's lack of American citizenship from birth until his parents' divorce. See these two essays that I've recently written. The End of Eden & the Rise of Obama http://patriotpost.us/commentary/2012/01/27/the-end-of-eden-the-rise-of-obama/
and the other that I've just added to my blog at obama--nation.com (h2ooflife.wordpress.com)
http://h2ooflife.wordpress.com/2012/01/28/expatriated-by-marriage/ Obama & Mother; Expatriated by Marriage; British Subjects Only Until Divorce
Adrien Nash
on the NDAA it is a bit chilling to understand that it was the obama WH that lobbied to change the language of the original draft so as to INCLUDE US citizens within it's scope .the original bill did NOT apply americans ,courtosy of BHO it now does .
pls see YT clip sen levin on NDAA .
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